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Okay Balder ...

As I just noted, this is an odd reading for me in that it's sparse and that we have a direct interaction (nearly a feedback loop) between a rune that's 'off' the mat and one that's 'on'.

So ... What do we have?


Well, in terms of the future, this is pretty near-future, meaning a couple of weeks or maybe a month plus a little bit. Why do I say that? Well, the one rune that fell 'on' fell pretty solidly in Midhgardhr (The Here and Now/ How People (come together/synthesize themselves to) Manifest in Life/ Ego Conciousness) with between a quarter and a third in Asgardh (Higher Influences/ Veiled Branches of the Question/ Matters of Honor/ Positive (Active) Influences from Past States of örlög). Were it solidly in the middle of Midhgardhr, I's say it were likely to happen within the week, but it's toward the edge and not fully in.

The rune that's in is Dagaz (Paradox (Dawn/Twilight), Day), and in the 'upright' position, it represents a sort of epiphany or, alternatively, a reaching of completeness. Given the aspect of light (especially here sunlight), it implies that this will happen during the day, perhaps on a bright sunny afternoon here in the real world.

Now, that's the Midhgardhr aspect, but there's also that bit, the third to quarter, that resides in Asgardh. In here, we have positive influences, but remember that örlög is not fate or destiny that's written in a book before you're born and dictates what happens to you. In örlög. there's a path you're set on, but you do the walking and, at times, you can choose which way to go, so you can change your 'fate' by what you do. Here, groundwork you've laid, the paths you've chosen, are being more active an helping you, or moving you toward this epiphany/completeness. Also in here is an aspect of honor about what you do; likely anything you've set in motion in your örlög has been done according to a code, and thus you will do the thing that will be right, for that code.

There's an interesting aspect to the rune of Berkano that points directly at Dagaz, and also in the fact that Dagaz ends up pointing to the general area of Berkano, but not directly at it (it would intersect a place just a couple of inches south on the Y-axis). Were they pointed directly at each other we'd see a feedback loop where one fed into the other making the relationship very strong, but as it is, and with Berkano 'off', what it looks like is a means by which this epiphany/completeness is going to come off. Berkano has a female aspect (sometimes recognized as the 'Birch Goddess') which encapsulates the female life cycles, either through life changes (menarche, pregnancy/birth, nurturing, menopause) or through the more overt aspect of bringing forth new life, or having beauty or the aspects of love.

This rune's influence brings up the interesting aspect of paradox in the start and end of the day. Birth, the beginning of a new life, need not be literal, and is often seen in epiphanies (look at the classical tales of the Buddha whose life changes as he attains enlightenment). This same view can be associated with the dawn. But, without knowing which direction one is facing, a snapshot of dawn and twighlight may not be able to be discerned. Is it an end or a new beginning? I'd put it to the former over the latter.

Then again, you may be about to meet a woman who changes your life; the rune -can- represent, more literally, a mother (standard) or a whore (reversed).



What about the rest of the runes that were out? There are two reversed runes and three upright. We've already covered Berkano, but from the others? It looks like you're an intelligent person, with a decent imagination (though maybe in a dry spell?), but something frustrates your abilities, and all of this is leading to sorrow, strife and alienation from others. It also looks like you're willing to/honor-bound to set yourself aside for others, either financially (to charities or gifts to those that -should- deserve them). And, it looks like some of your situation could be due to a disease or the demise of some relationship (depression?).


In a nutshell? To me it looks like there's going to be a fairly radical change in your life, sometime relatively soon, likely sometime sunny, and likely in a way that will make everything seem (relatively) right.



And, here's the worksheet with the rune's layout and brief descriptions of what's where:

And, that done, I'm done for the night. Mediancat, I'll get you tomorrow, sorry ...

Well, I've got to admit, most of it doesn't mean a lot to me. I'll go through the reading and try to honestly comment on relevant aspects and non-relevant ones.


This seems to me to be the most relevant point, at least the second half. I've always retreated within my self away from the things of the world and this has been growing stronger lately as I've been focused on writing to the point that I'm not interested in socializing during my free time, I want to spend it all in my head typing away.



I don't see any relevance here.



The last here seems the most opposite to my nature. I'm not really experiencing any of this last part. I'm not really experiencing a depression at all, my emotional state has been slowly growing better. Mortality does influence the way I view the world, as I think it does for most of us (maybe I'm wrong ), but I enjoy and embrace the aging process. And my creativity has blossomed incredibly over the past year, hence my writing obsession.

So, acknowledging the circumstances and the fact that this is being done cold, over the internet, I think you hit 1/3.

Thanks for the time spent on it

No problem ...

It's always an interesting process, and ... I might do another for you at some later point when the dogs are no-where about, just to see.

And I made mention to jess that I was expecting you to answer that it was 100% in the wrong, so ... That's kind of interesting in itself. It wove together really well, but was kind of a downer, and that's always tough to work with.

I realized, however, that I didn't have any clear picture to focus on with either you or Balder in doing these. I usually do this for someone I know, or have in front of me, and to not have someone's face or their name or location, as I went about having my little chat with (read: to) Odin and Rhea, well, I tried to home in as best I could, but ...

Thanks for your feedback!

Sure, you are welcome to do a reading for me. I’ve had two sessions with a medium and found them both highly worthwhile. You can look up my photo at IIDB.

My partly known future is measured in days or maybe weeks and so I'd say this mostly fits.

This is completely foreign to me. The days travel by uneventfully while the nights have impact. As it's the future I can't really state with confidence that it's wrong.

Yes, but isn't that the case with everyone?

Not sure about this. I'm not usually concerned with ends or beginnings. Every moment is an end and every moment is a beginning which makes the concept slightly moot. One writer I've enjoyed always put "In the beginning" in scare quotes. I tend to subscribe to that view.

I hope neither my wife nor my mother sees this.

Fairly correct though I wouldn't describe myself as intelligent and my imagination is at an absolute peak at the moment. Many keep telling me I'm depressed and maybe I am, the word just doesn't have a clear meaning to me.


OK. The sunny part is probably off, but radical change isn't as such, but as I'm constantly in flux the only possible radical change would be for the negative. It's still in the future and so it's not really possible to say for sure of course.

Thanks for doing the reading

Do me! Do me!

What would be the outcome of radical change in my life? Like job or residence or location?





If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

Is it possible to not allow editing in this one thread?

I'd be really interested in seeing how things pan out---- most 'fortune telling' is helped by distance and memory. If it's set in stone, it may be easier to be objective.

If it's not, well, there's no editing without a marker, so we can be on our honor.

That said, oooo, do me do me!

Okay ... Two things ...

First, as these end up taking me a little oevr an hour, and there's an RL occasion that'll be crunching my time until (or because of) a meeting this Saturday (01/12/08), I'll have to postpone doing more just now.

On my list:

Mediancat - General
Hrvoje Butkovic - General
Tao of Pooh - Outcome of Radical Change (ie. Job, Residence)

Thanks!

Well, that's cool ... And let me just counter-comment ... See, this is an interesting bit, because in your responses, I could see where some of the concepts should have been read differently ... Which, in essence moves this a bit from a cold-read, so recognize that ...



Then I probably didn't focus enough on the Dawn/Twilight transition area, the moving from one state to another ...



Well, the general örlög stuff is the same for everyone. The bit I bolded includes some of the aspects of the runes from your reading that fit with that. So the latter bit is just for you, the former is for context ...

And, of course, not everyone is working toward completeness/epiphany ...



There, again, I should have focused on the Dawn/Twilight area as it seems that you're living in that 'state' of continually being on the cusp of something, one way or another (like the start or end of a day, you're on the start/end of a moment).



Your secret is safe ...



The 'lack of creativity' can be tricky, as it -could- mean creativity in the intellectual/imaginative, skillful/artistic, or social realms ... I paired it with the imaginative because, in some ways the reversed Kenaz (Torch) is a 'lack of vision' (as opposed to the upright meaning which would indicate knowledge and learning) and it seemed a foil to the upright Mannaz (Man(kind)) with the mental/intellectual aspects ...



Well, thanks for the feedback ...

And it's interesting to see how I can 'tweak' it a bit from the cold reading with just a bit of insight from you ...

Do the tweaks make it make any more sense?

Thanks!



That's really interesting that, for all the meanings of that rune, that's what you give for feedback. Especially with the glancing contact that the Pertho rune gets from Ansuz. Given that I re-used the stones after the abortive cast, it makes me wonder if, in that abortive original cast, Ansuz should have been upright ...



Picking up from my comment above, if this rune had veen 'upright' instead of 'reversed' then it would have represented communication among other things, which would have made a whole lot more sense, especially with what you said in the comment before this one about not wanting to socialize but to be typing away. You've the desire to write and it could move into money matters and -still- be nicely tied into the Pertho view as it sits above. I'll be forever wondering what that original cast would have been like ...

Dogs!



And as for this last, I'm stymied.


I was kind of surprised when I was writing this up that I could find the connections for the runes as they fell, but ... It just seemed wierd. As much as I know of you from the board, none of those runes in those positions seemed likely to fit.

But then again, maybe this will give some validity that I'm writing up what I get from the stones and not what I think folks want to hear ...

Now, I wouldn't want to do another cold, unfocused reading for you, as you've given me some insight in these comments, but I'd be happy to try something more focused for you at a later date, just to see what I get ... Just let me know ...

I'm down. When this thread dies down and you don't have many readings to do I'll try and throw you a reminder.

Temptresses.

Rob

You just have to know what to offer to get the right responses, man ...

That's cool 'cause even if I do the switcheroonie it wouldn't be for months, probably spring or summer.
Does that help you?
I figured I'd ask a specific question 'cause nobody else did




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